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		<title>By: tonyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 10:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>casey, the facts are although this car didnt sell the media gave mitsubishi&#039;s potential customers conmfidence! i worked for a mitsubishi dealer and people were running scared on what the media said, so im just stating it from my experience! 

 do you write for one of the major papers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>casey, the facts are although this car didnt sell the media gave mitsubishi&#8217;s potential customers conmfidence! i worked for a mitsubishi dealer and people were running scared on what the media said, so im just stating it from my experience! </p>
<p> do you write for one of the major papers?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***check the main page guys - it&#039;s all over***

:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***check the main page guys &#8211; it&#8217;s all over***</p>
<p>:(</p>
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		<title>By: Oz.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh no! :(</description>
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		<title>By: Oz.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oz.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:o</description>
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		<title>By: John S</title>
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		<dc:creator>John S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>geesh carl...take a chill pill...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geesh carl&#8230;take a chill pill&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Duck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So will they shift making the 380 in China or Russia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So will they shift making the 380 in China or Russia?</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D-Day is March 31</description>
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		<title>By: Yianni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yianni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 380 is a pretty good car as most of us know. Nothing wrong with the drive train and quality of the car. Looks wise its just OK and does not stand out which is a major problem.

I think Mitsubishi have only themselves to blame. They flogged off the crappy smoking Magnas for years and years and shot themselves in the foot.

It&#039;s very difficult to rebuild your image when even today you drive behind an older Magna and see all the smoke and hear all the rattles from the engine.

Wasn&#039;t it reported a few years back that Mitsubishi was buying these Magnas from car yards and sending them straight to the scrap yard just to get them off the road?

I know so many people that would not touch a Mitsubishi simply because of that reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 380 is a pretty good car as most of us know. Nothing wrong with the drive train and quality of the car. Looks wise its just OK and does not stand out which is a major problem.</p>
<p>I think Mitsubishi have only themselves to blame. They flogged off the crappy smoking Magnas for years and years and shot themselves in the foot.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very difficult to rebuild your image when even today you drive behind an older Magna and see all the smoke and hear all the rattles from the engine.</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t it reported a few years back that Mitsubishi was buying these Magnas from car yards and sending them straight to the scrap yard just to get them off the road?</p>
<p>I know so many people that would not touch a Mitsubishi simply because of that reason.</p>
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		<title>By: RPITUP</title>
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		<dc:creator>RPITUP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great car, crap looks. When it&#039;s all boiled down, for most buyers the main questions will be how much will it cost me and how does it look.
Tonyn - No arguments from me that it is a sound car, but not everyone is as car savvy as a lot of the readers on this site. Power, handling and vehicle longevity pale into insignificance when stacked up to looks, price and features to many of the potential buyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great car, crap looks. When it&#8217;s all boiled down, for most buyers the main questions will be how much will it cost me and how does it look.<br />
Tonyn &#8211; No arguments from me that it is a sound car, but not everyone is as car savvy as a lot of the readers on this site. Power, handling and vehicle longevity pale into insignificance when stacked up to looks, price and features to many of the potential buyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tonyn - The media does nothing more than report on the facts at hand - simple. 

The cold hard fact of this situatoin is that whilst the 380 may indeed be a good car in its own right (as CarAdvice reviews attest to) the company&#039;s idiotic decision to rely solely on that car to support itself is one of the most incompetent management decisions ever made in this country that has done little more than tarnish their reputation even further. 

You simply cannot hope to support yourself based on the strength of a single product - eggs in one basket! Rule one of diversification. 

Wake up to yourself mate, there&#039;s a far bigger picture here than the narrow vista you&#039;re trying to paint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tonyn &#8211; The media does nothing more than report on the facts at hand &#8211; simple. </p>
<p>The cold hard fact of this situatoin is that whilst the 380 may indeed be a good car in its own right (as CarAdvice reviews attest to) the company&#8217;s idiotic decision to rely solely on that car to support itself is one of the most incompetent management decisions ever made in this country that has done little more than tarnish their reputation even further. </p>
<p>You simply cannot hope to support yourself based on the strength of a single product &#8211; eggs in one basket! Rule one of diversification. </p>
<p>Wake up to yourself mate, there&#8217;s a far bigger picture here than the narrow vista you&#8217;re trying to paint.</p>
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		<title>By: tonyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think your wrong! i think the media shold feel really bad about this as it has been them that have caused it. The 380 is one of the best large cars around, but because of the beat up about them closing down they now look like they are.

 And the media are doing the same with the falcon now.... shame media, shame!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think your wrong! i think the media shold feel really bad about this as it has been them that have caused it. The 380 is one of the best large cars around, but because of the beat up about them closing down they now look like they are.</p>
<p> And the media are doing the same with the falcon now&#8230;. shame media, shame!</p>
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		<title>By: Bilstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mitsubishi&#039;s mistake was that it decided to produce a single type of car (380) to challenge a single segment (large car)in a single yet relatively small market of Australia.

If Mitsubishi were smart, they would have followed a similar angle as Toyota have (Camry/Aurion)by providing 2 versions of a single platform to tackle two different segments supported by a healthy export programme.

Basically, Mitsubishi should have provided the market with a competant 4 cyl version as well as a larger 6 cyl capacity car hence widening it&#039;s market diversity.

Unfortunately, Mitsubishi will close because of thier own silly decisions. Dreams how bosses want thier company to be compared to market reality are often two different worlds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitsubishi&#8217;s mistake was that it decided to produce a single type of car (380) to challenge a single segment (large car)in a single yet relatively small market of Australia.</p>
<p>If Mitsubishi were smart, they would have followed a similar angle as Toyota have (Camry/Aurion)by providing 2 versions of a single platform to tackle two different segments supported by a healthy export programme.</p>
<p>Basically, Mitsubishi should have provided the market with a competant 4 cyl version as well as a larger 6 cyl capacity car hence widening it&#8217;s market diversity.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Mitsubishi will close because of thier own silly decisions. Dreams how bosses want thier company to be compared to market reality are often two different worlds.</p>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
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		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like we all gonna have to move to China where all the jobs are happening. There saying that China is creating up to 10,000 jobs a day and people who live in villages and farms over there are moving into the city area cause they can now get a job and make 1 dollar a day for themselves. Our skills and knowledge is being sent over there to train them and we are now waiting for the poverty to hit us here. It must be Australias turn now to be a poor nation and China to be wealthy. The Chinese are really outsmarting us all now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like we all gonna have to move to China where all the jobs are happening. There saying that China is creating up to 10,000 jobs a day and people who live in villages and farms over there are moving into the city area cause they can now get a job and make 1 dollar a day for themselves. Our skills and knowledge is being sent over there to train them and we are now waiting for the poverty to hit us here. It must be Australias turn now to be a poor nation and China to be wealthy. The Chinese are really outsmarting us all now.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that you abuse everyone that you don&#039;t agree with say&#039;s more about YOU than my HUMBLE opinions on this forum could ever say!!!

No need to get abusive or sarcastic just because you think you are superior to anyone who thinks differently to you....have a nice day SIR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that you abuse everyone that you don&#8217;t agree with say&#8217;s more about YOU than my HUMBLE opinions on this forum could ever say!!!</p>
<p>No need to get abusive or sarcastic just because you think you are superior to anyone who thinks differently to you&#8230;.have a nice day SIR!</p>
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		<title>By: John S</title>
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		<dc:creator>John S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks carl for your pearls of wisdom...you are such a jedi in this forum right?

anyway seriously why doesn&#039;t mitsu pimp up the 380? i mean the ralliart attempt was poor compared to the lancer of old...why cant mitsu make their evo range like fpv and hsv and totally pimp up all the cars...like toyotas trd range...that could lift sales and hopefully save jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks carl for your pearls of wisdom&#8230;you are such a jedi in this forum right?</p>
<p>anyway seriously why doesn&#8217;t mitsu pimp up the 380? i mean the ralliart attempt was poor compared to the lancer of old&#8230;why cant mitsu make their evo range like fpv and hsv and totally pimp up all the cars&#8230;like toyotas trd range&#8230;that could lift sales and hopefully save jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam, I&#039;m with you. When I produced Drive TV with Fairfax, we all liked the 380 but others didn&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam, I&#8217;m with you. When I produced Drive TV with Fairfax, we all liked the 380 but others didn&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the 380 is a very well built car .. definitely better than commodore or falcon.. Toyota is good as well but is not much of a drivers car in comparison to the 380.. If the 380 GT was a standard model ( at least in looks) I believe it would have sold well. however it might be too late.. It does need a redesign..  something as bold as the lancer.. Its made from the same company yet sells very very well.. So design as we know these days has alot to do with good sales for car makers.. If mitsubishi does leave, maybe Nissan might make a return.. I do recall Carl Ghosn was a bit keen on Australia not too long ago when they was talk of the closure in Adelaide. .. It might do Mitsubishi good to consolidate now and recoup the losses and get back to good design.. still make the 380 but elsewhere but then get Nissan into Australia who I know can really challenge the big local 3... Carlos does seem to have a winnning formula... except for yes the darn Tiida!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the 380 is a very well built car .. definitely better than commodore or falcon.. Toyota is good as well but is not much of a drivers car in comparison to the 380.. If the 380 GT was a standard model ( at least in looks) I believe it would have sold well. however it might be too late.. It does need a redesign..  something as bold as the lancer.. Its made from the same company yet sells very very well.. So design as we know these days has alot to do with good sales for car makers.. If mitsubishi does leave, maybe Nissan might make a return.. I do recall Carl Ghosn was a bit keen on Australia not too long ago when they was talk of the closure in Adelaide. .. It might do Mitsubishi good to consolidate now and recoup the losses and get back to good design.. still make the 380 but elsewhere but then get Nissan into Australia who I know can really challenge the big local 3&#8230; Carlos does seem to have a winnning formula&#8230; except for yes the darn Tiida!</p>
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		<title>By: Iamthestig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iamthestig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 380 may be a reasonable car to drive but you wouldn\&#039;t want to actually own one due to poor resale (now bound to be even worse if they stop making them !)

When it was new, it was still a outdated, ugly car, out of times with what the public wanted, had inferior technology and was WAY overpriced (don&#039;t forget the massive price reductions)  Remember that it still doesn&#039;t have ESP even now !

Sad that production will be finishing but it is all to do with the product choice - nothing less...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 380 may be a reasonable car to drive but you wouldn\&#8217;t want to actually own one due to poor resale (now bound to be even worse if they stop making them !)</p>
<p>When it was new, it was still a outdated, ugly car, out of times with what the public wanted, had inferior technology and was WAY overpriced (don&#8217;t forget the massive price reductions)  Remember that it still doesn&#8217;t have ESP even now !</p>
<p>Sad that production will be finishing but it is all to do with the product choice &#8211; nothing less&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to John s it&#039;s al Kevin Rudds fault!!! if you were less one eyed you would have heard that the federal government offered help and Mitsubishi Japan said NO thanks!

You lose all credibillity when you use a car forum to push your political barrow.... please stay relevant and keep your sour grapes to your self after all Mr John Howard wasn&#039;t perfect....far from it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to John s it&#8217;s al Kevin Rudds fault!!! if you were less one eyed you would have heard that the federal government offered help and Mitsubishi Japan said NO thanks!</p>
<p>You lose all credibillity when you use a car forum to push your political barrow&#8230;. please stay relevant and keep your sour grapes to your self after all Mr John Howard wasn&#8217;t perfect&#8230;.far from it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The 380 is not that bad a car, it’s a little out of date and the competitors are a little better though.  However, I’ll have to agree with you Casey, the 380’s biggest down fall is its predecessor.  People do have long memories and when a consumer gets stuck with a car they virtually can’t give away, they learn a lesson.  

As for all the doom and gloom for the Australian motor industry. There’s one thing we should all keep in mind, back during the last oil crisis Australia built big cars.  The two major players took very different paths.  Ford decided on a large car and worked on weigh reduction and Holden decided on a smaller one.  We all know how this turned out, the Commodore nearly sent Holden to the wall and the Falcon went on to some of the best sales figures it has ever had. Consumers are suffering from petrol price shock, when it calms down, which it inevitably will, things will go back to normal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 380 is not that bad a car, it’s a little out of date and the competitors are a little better though.  However, I’ll have to agree with you Casey, the 380’s biggest down fall is its predecessor.  People do have long memories and when a consumer gets stuck with a car they virtually can’t give away, they learn a lesson.  </p>
<p>As for all the doom and gloom for the Australian motor industry. There’s one thing we should all keep in mind, back during the last oil crisis Australia built big cars.  The two major players took very different paths.  Ford decided on a large car and worked on weigh reduction and Holden decided on a smaller one.  We all know how this turned out, the Commodore nearly sent Holden to the wall and the Falcon went on to some of the best sales figures it has ever had. Consumers are suffering from petrol price shock, when it calms down, which it inevitably will, things will go back to normal.</p>
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